50. God Wasnt going to see our fornicating as bringing glory to him. If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section, 1. To love Jesus is to love his word and follow his commands because we love him. There are a couple places but, they're all pretty much much secular and worldly. While I am not against crucifixes but using them in public worship is idolatry because the bible forbids idols. They have distinct responsibilities and operations. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. It didnt raise red flags for me. If this method were a stock, who would invest in it with such a low return. You should read my article on that: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, Dont get me wrong but tithing is still scriptural, even within the New Testament. They were so grieved by the fact that they had broken a 30+ year record of being at church three times a week. If you think that the KJV is inspired, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 2. 35. Due to the nature of the churches being independentin their autonomy, a percentage of what is believed, practiced or condemned by Independent Baptists (or IndependentFundamental Baptists, or Bible Believing Baptists, or IndependentBible Believing Baptists, or Unaffiliated Baptists, or Unaffiliated IndependentBaptists - just to More than one earring per ear for women is worldly I dont agree that multiple earrings per ear for women is worldly as long its not fancy. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Independent Fundamental Baptists are one of the most legalistic Christian groups/. I dont think having two revivals a year is a bad thing as they word states we should continue to get together as believers. How about shortchanging the Lord out of 20 minutes of Sunday service time worship for game show gimmickry hype to boost attendance? In the past 25 years, Ive seen many children leave but very few come back. Praise the lord for forgiveness. Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. Jesus will save you if you believe in your heart that he was raised from the dead and admit out loud that Jesus is your lord. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. I believe being separate is doing what God has commanded you to do. 13. How will you escape the judgment of hell? at people who raise their hands during worship music you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 34. I can count on one hand the number of IFBs whove asked for a discussion instead of attacking me. Jesus forgives and loves and he also needs to be honored is all respects. Like I said, Im doing repair work. 22 of the congregations are in 16 U.S. states, one in British Columbia, three are in the Philippines, two are in the Australian states of New South Wales and Queensland, and one congregation is located in the South African town of Middelburg. Besides I dont understand why you shouldnt listen to Contemporary Christian music. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. People are people and free to choose their own way. Everyone has sent in their life. I didnt condemn other version by saying Kjv is inspired. The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of For which is more importantthe gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? Peace. I found this site while checking for deceptions in different denominations, starting with Mormons. But I did want to let you know that although some ifb churches may not be the best it doesnt make us a cult. Good point Steve! 24 Blind guides! Please trust me when I tell you that your IFB church (as most other IFB churches) is preying on you. I actually looked up the word just now (Random House Websters College Dictionary), and here are the definitions: 3.) It teaches parents to use their authority to prod, guide, and correct their children. Maybe one day I can reach your level of acceptance and spirituality. Not of works, lest any man should boast. I dont agree with this because there is nothing wrong with going to college. For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! He granted his permission to work in the Infant Ministry and Toddler, and 3-4 year old Ministry. If that doesnt raise red flags for you I dont know what will. Christ suffered and Sometimes it makes you wonder if they have EVER read/learned anything from Jesus! What if it had been biting you for 5, 10, 15, or (in my case) 25 years and you managed to finally escape would you go back or send a love one to pet it? No one should be forced to any belief against his or her will. Anderson, Fannin and Shelley traded accusations of financial wrongdoing and running a cult. I aint got any place to judge anyone because in all honesty i have messed up in life a lot. Hope you have a great day! (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:l-8; Hebrews 13:4), We believe that human life begins at conception and that the unborn child is a living human being. 45. Teaching there is any unforgivable sin besides the sin of unbelief in Jesus Christ is not biblical. I agree that God can use anything and anyone to reach people, but I can guarantee that the IFB has ulterior motives. Scofield came to know Christ AFTER all of that, so I dont hold that against him. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). No, Baptist churches are not sinless because they are filled with forgiven sinners. First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too. If you feel guilty for not having devotions 7 days a week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 42. I mean, why would you think its too liberal to sing anything other than hymns in the church because, there are some churches within the Southern Baptist Convention, which is different from the IFB, that have a contemporary music worship in one service and have traditional hymns in another service. If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. 8 Dont let anyone call you Rabbi, for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters. While God hates divorce, but we should help those who are divorce so they can grow spiritually. The reality is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH is the church that PRACTICES BIBLICAL TEACHINGS and NOT THAT OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS because THEY ARE AGAINST THE BIBLE because I do ask the question that why there are so many churches. Illustration by Don Pfaffe appearing in the Central Conservative Baptist Quarterly 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway. Welpjust commented for the sake of the few who posted comments and clearly are rowing the same boat as I! If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. I remember our pastor asking us if we could forgive each other, and praise the lord we forgave each other for the offenses committed against each other. My pastor has never taught that man can forgive sins. 18. In fact, if you're single you know what I'm talking about. We believe that the Holy Spirit is the Person who reproves the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment; and that He is the Supernatural Agent in regeneration, indwelling all believers and sealing them unto the day of redemption (John 16:8-11; II Corinthians 3:6; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:13-14). Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). Praise the lord God made salvation a gift, or I probably wouldnt have received it. Even I believe that if you are living in sin you are getting to the point where you are eventually will lose your salvation. Lastly, I cant really respond to the think that theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse because I have no idea where thats coming from in my initial post. The truth is, if you had sex with ANY woman before you finally decided to marry one of them, you are a divorced man. We believe that the souls of the redeemed are, at death, absent from the body and present with the Lord, where in conscious bliss they await the first resurrection, when spirit, soul, and body are reunited to be glorified forever with the Lord (Luke 23:43; Revelation 20:4-6; II Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23, 3:21; I Thessalonians 4:16-17). The establishment and continuance of local churches is clearly taught and defined in te New Testa ment Scriptures (Acts 14:27; 20:17, 28-32; I Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-11). Im told its because when u abandon the real truth, theres hardly any hope. If your pastor begins his sermon by reading one verse then yells and pounds the pulpit for the next 30 minutes, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 17. No official opinion on this though as I said we should discipline our children the same way God disciplines us We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. If you might confuse KJV with KJB its the same thing but its a preference on how people might want to call it. I wanted to marry my boyfriend, but I want to fix him first. The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin. Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. If you think that reading a version of the Bible other than the KJV is a sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 18. 14. By the way Jason, if you think theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse, I feel sorry for you. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. We went to th IFB church that next day to say we went to get them off our back. Since the origins of the church, Baptists have said the Bible is the only authority for Christian faith The problem is assuming intent instead of asking. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. Landlord Cody Johnson later agreed not to evict Stedfast Baptist from the Watauga location after communicating with Stedfast's lawyer.[15][16]. Should we stay living together with our baby in fornication? Although some Independent Baptist churches refuse affiliation with Baptist denominations, various Independent Baptist Church denominations have been founded. I assure you that Im living exactly how God wants me to be living and Im doing it outside of the IFB (yes it can be done LOL). Marriage for two people that want to make a life together is biblical. The Baptist Distinctives are easy to remember using the acronym B.A.P.T.I.S.T.S. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. We should not tell who are the good and bad Christians because we should treat everyone with love just like God loves every one of us. If people asked rather than assumed there would be a lot less reactions. Sons of vipers! I must say, I was hoping the list would be more interesting but the fact mixed into the exaggeration of each point was mostly so true it seemed a bit pointless! Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 7. If you believe that someone who smokes, drinks, parties, dances, listens to secular music, listens to Christian contemporary music, etc. WebThe 1920 Baptist Fundamentals declared, The fundamental principle of the Baptists, in common with many other evangelicals, has always been the gospel, which is the essence (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. If you think that other than suits and ties for men is too casual for Sundays While I dont believe that you must dress up for church with suits and ties, however, I do believe we should honor God in His house by dressing up. If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. Also no one can hide hypocrisy and iniquity. ), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 41. I do into great detail about why I believe the IFB is cultish in practice. Only the KJV will be used in this group; My birth mother is a Catholic she didnt raise me. Is there any perfect , no. You might be a hypocrite if you dedicate a whole website to exposing deception while using it.??? Very few men are qualified to be pastors using your interpretation of scripture. I can not forgive sins! 5 Everything they do is for show. Do you know what Jesus told the Pharisees? We believe that men are justified by faith alone and are accounted righteous before God only through the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Im so thankful for Gods grace on your life and the lives of your family. 31. We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. Everyone has health issues. 23. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23. Hypocrites! I sought counciling to see if there was anything in the Bible that could give Hope to our relationship. The verses you quoted are taken out of context and dont mean what you imply them to mean. WebBaptist beliefs are seen as belonging to three parties: General Baptists who uphold Arminian soteriology, Particular Baptists who uphold Calvinist soteriology, and Independent Baptists, who might embrace a strict version of either Arminianism or Calvinism, but are most notable for their fundamentalist positions on Biblical Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception, You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if, https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/, https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/, https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, https://www.openbible.info/topics/tithe_in_the_new_testament, http://www.thelaymansbiblicalhandbook.com/, Broad Stroking and Sweeping Generalizations Fallacy, Harold Camping Fails to Predict the Rapture, The 10 Commandments of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, 92-Year-Old Woman Kicked Out of Church for not Tithing. Also, Im not mocking Biblical beliefs. Scofield Bible!!!! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you. I was told that I could not work in one of my passionate ministries, infant, toddler, and 3-4 year olds because of something I did in my past 14 years ago and pastor told me I have to prove myself first. There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. If I chose to forgive him there would be hope for our relationship. The Bible gives qualifications for each office. 42. I dont have a boarden to preform any religious works. Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of Gods word. This is simply an attempt to bring some humor to the blog for the readers enjoyment. I respond to IFB jabs, sometimes that requires a jab back. My church members are filled with sin and give account to God alone. Told to leave them to the hog mire until they return to the father.. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. This led to calls to evict Stedfast Baptist Church from its location at a strip mall in Watauga, Texas. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. WebIndependent Fundamental Baptist Preaching and Bible Study from the Word of God the King James Bible at Vision Valley Baptist Church in MT. We as a couple decided to do things biblical. We believe in salvation by grace Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? Independent Fundamental Baptist is NOT a denomination because they are Independent I am not Baptist but they are CLOSE to being a denomination because of their beliefs. I must forgive others the same way God forgave me. Satan's eternal end is everlasting torment in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:10). Each church is autonomous, or self-governing, and contains all human authority for leadership within its congregation. I have read other versions of the Bible. You might be an IFB if Your child has went to church there 3x a week, his whole life, but when he leaves the church, your to have nothing to do with them. If you believe that the IFB isnt a denomination because they are Independent, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 37. We believe that the only marriage recognized by Scripture is the joining of one man and one woman. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated congregations on its website, most in the U.S. with some in Australia, Canada, the Philippines and South Africa. 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 6. But I still think that every Christian should spend some time in an IFB church. Like I said, forgiveness doesnt mean anything other than forgiveness. Gospel Light Baptist Church, Albany, Georgia. Im not responsible for how its perceived. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. If you attend a church each Sunday with a team of men that keeps track of attendence each Sunday In our congregation, we do not do that. N/A WebBaptists reject the notion of baptism of people who do not know what is happening to them, such as children. N/A Lots of people at the church stoped what they were doing to attend. Many of those things actually do go on at IFB churches, but several of those things are Biblical. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. Israel was the prodical.. judah is the elder son that was jealous of israel.. Study The prodigal son and the two houses of Israel. When you find Christ, you are a new creation and the spirit helps you to live a life that pleases Him, not us. People to Be Executed", "Deported NZ pastor Logan Robertson shows no remorse for harassing 'sissy' Muslims", "Police investigating Auckland pastor who threatened homosexuals", "Advocates urge supporters to ask landlord to evict Stedfast Baptist", "North Texas church that called for execution of gay people won't be evicted", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Independent_Fundamentalist_Baptist&oldid=1142179437, Baptist denominations established in the 21st century, Anti-Islam sentiment in the United States, Organizations that oppose LGBT rights in the United States, Christian organizations established in 2017, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 23:30. We told to get married. If you believe that all Catholics are going to hell, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 35. The members were so sweet to us. 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. Most pastors are lacking and are full of themselves because of one basic issue. The list is quite helpful just in case one is wondering if theyre living through the motions or not though, but some things are definitely unbiblical to do whether youre IFB or not. People are more willing to change their ways when confronted in love rather then with criticism and bitterness. Then they paid for your reception, photographers and shower? You got me I am an IFB college grad. For you say that it means nothing to swear by Gods Temple, but that it is binding to swear by the gold in the Temple. 17 Blind fools! We also teach that one must hear the Word of God, one must believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, one must repent of your sins, one must confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, one must be baptized for the remissions of sins, and one must live faithful until death. The New IFB is strongly opposed to homosexuality, with several pastors advocating the belief that homosexuals should be executed by the government. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. Independent Baptists (a.k.a. The ones that do apply, I dont see a problem with (ie, we do have a track rack and we do have a van that picks up from surrounding neighborhoods and I do enjoy attending church 3 times a week and would enjoy more if possible.) I will never forget that day that I sat in my pastors car and he prayed with me, he didnt know what was happening in my life, but he knew I needed someone to pray with and I could see it in his eyes. WebWARNING!!!! 2. Saying that Baptism is not necessary for salvation but rather it is an obedience to Christ is a liberal view of baptism and is unbiblical. What an extensive list. We sought counseling to see if there was any hope. Im sad to here that fellow Christians cant get along, and I will start praying for all Churchs to be revived. Jesus said I came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.. Judah has always been with God. He wasnt saying that spanking is right or wrong, but that definitely extreme discipline and beating kids is not what the Bible teaches. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. Theres a place to rebuke abusive religious practices. It was fun to read down through comments and feel a little gratified that not everyone was chuckling to themselves againwhy?? I love the Lord with all my heart-I attend church when I want and where I wantbut mostly I have bible studies with Christian friends in coffee shops, homes, and restaurants and (I usually have on a pair of blue jeans. Smoking, drinking, partying, dancing, listening to secular music or Contemporary music arent sinful though partying can only be sinful if you are drunk. We believe in verbal, plenary inspiration in the original writings, and God's preservation of His pure words to every generation (II Timothy 3:16, Psalms 12:6-8). I can forgive people for offenses committed against me. I have 3 children I sometimes spank I sometimes lecture. 27. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. Frankly its not your place to tell me what I should and shouldnt do (typical IFB who thinks they know what everyone is supposed to be doing). 25 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Heartland Baptist Bible College The IFB ostracizes people when they leave. When you discover that female is indeed wearing the acceptable dress, skirt or koulotts youre so relieved to know that shes right with God ! We recognize the ordinances of baptism by immersion in water and the Lord's Supper as a Scriptural means of testimony for local churches in this age (Matthew. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Basically he was just marketing for his college. Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. 8. Yes, we have strife and faults and hypocrites. We believe education in the world is good, but the teaching of evolution needs to be addressed if the individual is a little kid as false doctrine. 12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
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