December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! I do know its about mid charge range tho. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. I want to be safe. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. TITEGROUP - Hodgdon If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. looking4reloadingdeals I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! Probably saved me some money. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Load at your own risk. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! 6 grains? More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Still using same load years later and it's a good round. So filling up half way looks normal. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. It's accurate and reliable. Powered by Invision Community. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Both Plated round nose and JHP. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. You can post now and register later. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Paste as plain text instead, My brother gave me some Titegroup. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! containers. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. JavaScript is disabled. TiteGroup | Ruger Forum Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. Loading is always at your own risk. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. 2.8 gr. Why? 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup - Northeastshooters.com Forums I consider the type of bullet. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. was 1146fps. 9mm Load Data - PowderThrough.com I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. What is your favorite firearm to load for? The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I am using CBI pistol powder. Boris_La . Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. We will pass. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. 115 gr xtreme load/col data? | Northeastshooters.com Forums The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. Really..so, how would someone measure that? Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. Obligatory start low and work your way up I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. Titegroup for 9mm? | Carolina Shooters Forum 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . Warning! All I had was word of mouth and books. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. Your previous content has been restored. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Most accurate 9MM reload | SIG Talk It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. Upgrade efforts paused for now. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. Wish i could find it again. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. There simply isn't much load data for the super-heavy 9mm bullets. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. JavaScript is disabled. JavaScript is disabled. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. Nuts accurate. BrianEnos.com In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. containers. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. 9mm titegroup load data - Calguns.net Use the LRN and you will be good. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? Can't keep enough at the house. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. Seen a few of those over the years. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. Nov 7, 2015. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. You say that now. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. Makes an impression on you. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. 9mm Titegroup Load | 1911Forum To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. Thanks all. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Your link has been automatically embedded. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. Clear editor. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. 9mm load for USPSA | Northeastshooters.com Forums For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. C.O.A.L. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Better to be too careful than blow something up. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. No issues there. Is this not a safe load? OAL is about 1.139 give or take. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. Why do we load Titegroup and 124gr bullets hot? - 9mm/38 Caliber TiteGroup and loads - Bullseye Forum The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. 3 grains? LOL. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Save Share. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. Makes 900fps out of my G17. By Thanks for your patience. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. This is safe, yes? You need to get teh double disc kit. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. You are using an out of date browser. 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Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information.
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